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#October 4, 2007

#aedifico42The Shrine Question…

Posted at: 1:37 pm

   I have heard many many comments about the Shrine Question (whether the Shrine and the Blue Lodge ought to divorce).  As an Arizona Mason, and having been issued a summons to the Special Communication of our Grand Lodge (which, ironically, will be held at the El Zariba Shrine Temple), I find my self in the eye of the storm.

   As in all conflicts, eventually things will get sorted-out, and mostly the status quo will be maintained.  Most Masons are not Shriners, so there is no big loss if there is a split.  On the other hand, if the Shrine goes away, they will be able to continue to do all their good work, and that’s a good thing for all the children that the Shrine helps.

   What amazes me is that this conversation is happening in the first place.  For example, in this jurisdiction, it is but a small handful (literally, you can count them on your hands) of men who have caused the incredible circumstances that face the Craft today.  I always thought that our Craft and the men in it were above being dragged into the muck by a small band of whiners.  Although I may have expected too much, we are doing what we can to work-through the conflict.

   To be clear, I am not a Shriner…but I am not an anti-Shriner.  In fact, I have friends who are Shriners.

   The question about a divorce or a division usually only arises when it’s too late anyway.  The Shrine (to the best of my knowledge) has a limited and narrow ritual tradition, does not promote intellectual inquiry into the rich history and traditions of Freemasonry, and only exists to help small children while enjoying a bit of the fruit of the vine.  Nothing really wrong with that…if you are satisfied with that.  And this is not to cut-short any of the Shrine’s many great deeds…only to point-out their differences from the Blue Lodge.

   A guy like me, however, does not need a drinking club.  I want intellectual challenge.  I want meaningful ritual.  I want to read and think and discuss and learn.  I want my craft to be better than a local bar where funds are donated in order to justify my personal pleasures.  I want a Freemasonry that speaks to the nobility of the Craft in practice.  I want to be surrounded by men who care about their families and their futures, while not ignoring the enlightenment traditions that created this Nation.  And the occasional Table Lodge would be just fine…thank you very much.

   I have nothing against the Shrine.  Let them be.  But I do question what their true motives are, and why anyone would think that a division would hurt the Blue Lodge.  Blue Lodge Freemasonry has overcome many many challenges over the years.  The Craft is flexible and can adjust to whatever adversity could arise.  I have no concern whatsoever that Blue Lodge Masonry will survive and flourish with or without the Shrine. 

   Frankly, I think a division would ultimately be good for both organizations.  It would let each focus on their own goals and motivations, and would end the constant bickering.  Blue Lodge Masonry survived the Anti-Mason political party and a whole host of other challenges before the Shrine even existed.  Concerns about the effects of a divorce on the Blue Lodge are overblown and reactionary.  I do think, however, that the Shrine might not be able to support itself…but I hope they can continue and grow if there is a split.  Those guys do good work, even if they don’t do it the way I would.

   Sometimes a divorce is the best thing for the kids.

   What do you think?  Should the Shrine and the Blue Lodge split?

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  1. As one that is pretty new to Freemasonry and having still A LOT to still absorb and learn, the prerequisite to becoming a Shriner is to have either gone through the Scottish or York Rites. And in order to have done that, you have to be a Master Mason. Therefore, in order to be Shriner, one has to be first and foremost…a Mason. Separating the two organizations wouldn’t serve either the Blue Lodge or the Shrine. The Shrine could then theoretically have members who were not Masons and then could not be defined as a “just and legally constituted” Masonic organization. What ever the rift was between the Grand Lodge and the Shrine, the Shriner’s first obligation was to be a Mason and uphold the obligation he took in order to be raised as a Master Mason. Mason first, Shriner second. If the two are at odds, Grand Lodge rules and edicts win by default…period.

    Comment by Shepdawg — October 4, 2007 @ 3:25 pm

  2. In an odd coincidence, I have posted about this very same topic yesterday.

    Comment by Wayfaring Man — October 4, 2007 @ 4:05 pm

  3. Shepdawg, the Shriners are not considered a “Masonic” organization on a fundamental level. The only “Masonic” bodies are those that either follow, contribute, expand or explain the Hiramic Legend (Scottish/York Rites, etc). That legend is wholly and exclusively “Masonic” and therefore to be considered a “Masonic” organization there must be some elements pertaining to that one instance. Granted there are organizations that require masonic membership first but those are not considered to be Masonic in nature in my opinion. As of now you do not have to go through the York/Scottish Rites to become a Shriner as in the days of old but can go to a one-day class then move on to the Shriners and lose yourself in the bottom of a bottle. (Sorry, that was a bit harsh but it’s what I see)

    Comment by emeraldi42 — October 4, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

  4. emeraldi42,
    Ah ya see, as I said I still have much to learn! If they require their members to be Masons, then they are Masonic in nature and will be viewed as such. The Shiners still have the prerequisite to be a Mason, right? If so, then they are unequivocally beholen to the Grand Lodge as Masons. Without that prerequisite, the Grand Lodge couldn’t do anything and we wouldn’t be having this discussion…as I understand it.

    Comment by Shepdawg — October 4, 2007 @ 5:06 pm

  5. More interesting than my blog is the split over whether or not to split………

    Comment by AEdifico — October 5, 2007 @ 9:29 am

  6. Oh yeah, sorry AEdifico. Split ‘em.

    Comment by emeraldi42 — October 5, 2007 @ 1:58 pm

  7. It is not a decision for the “Blue Lodge” Masons to make. The Shrine, at its inception, made Masonic membership a prerequisite. Just as the Imperial Shrine convention determined in the late 1990’s to no longer include the Scottish or York Rite requirements they can also do away with the Master Mason requirement. It is a decision that they must make and only they can make it. I do believe that the Shrine would lose members over such a decision; the only ones the Lodges would lose are the Shriners who only pay Blue Lodge dues because they have to in order to remain in Shrinedom. I am willing to suffer those losses in they are willing to sever the silver thread that binds us together.

    Comment by Makers Mark — October 13, 2007 @ 4:05 am

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