Comments on: On Puke… http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/ Masonic Thinking and Working Sun, 12 Oct 2008 01:41:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.1 By: emeraldi42 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-5622 emeraldi42 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:02:35 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-5622 AEdifico, you may want to make a reference to the end of chapter 3 and the beginning of chapter 4 in Morals and Dogma to reinforce your point. AEdifico, you may want to make a reference to the end of chapter 3 and the beginning of chapter 4 in Morals and Dogma to reinforce your point.

]]> By: Mr. Ed http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-5133 Mr. Ed Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:21:13 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-5133 Brothers, memorizing a lecture is not learning the lecture. I once visited a lodge where a Brother was sitting on the sideline with a stop watch while the lecture was being "recited." I suspect the candidate learned little for it was delivered in a monotone and very rapidly. As it turned out the Brother with the stop watch and the "lecturer" had a contest between themselves as to who could do it the quickest. None of the words were missing, no substitutes; but I can't say it was perfect. My opinion, neither contestant understand the lecture or its purpose because they had no clue as to its meaning, more than likely something similar occurred when they were given the lecture. In consequence they deprived the candidate of further light. Brothers, memorizing a lecture is not learning the lecture. I once visited a lodge where a Brother was sitting on the sideline with a stop watch while the lecture was being “recited.” I suspect the candidate learned little for it was delivered in a monotone and very rapidly. As it turned out the Brother with the stop watch and the “lecturer” had a contest between themselves as to who could do it the quickest. None of the words were missing, no substitutes; but I can’t say it was perfect. My opinion, neither contestant understand the lecture or its purpose because they had no clue as to its meaning, more than likely something similar occurred when they were given the lecture. In consequence they deprived the candidate of further light.

]]> By: aedifico42 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-4997 aedifico42 Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:33:26 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-4997 Memorization is never enough. That is where Mike and I must differ. Anybody...and I mean anybody who puts for the effort...can memorize. I am more concerned, and frankly more impressed with the men who actually learn deeper meaning and do more than just the easy work. It's like changing a lightbulb and knowing how electricity actually works...anybody can change a lightbulb, but only some can be truly amazed at the inner-workings of that magical item... Memorization is never enough. That is where Mike and I must differ. Anybody…and I mean anybody who puts for the effort…can memorize.
I am more concerned, and frankly more impressed with the men who actually learn deeper meaning and do more than just the easy work.
It’s like changing a lightbulb and knowing how electricity actually works…anybody can change a lightbulb, but only some can be truly amazed at the inner-workings of that magical item…

]]> By: Steve Brettell http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-4993 Steve Brettell Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:44:18 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-4993 I agree that there's value to the memorization, and I agree that the meaning is important to learn. I've put out a challenge to all degrees that they discuss the memory work with appropriate people in appropriate places. Discuss the meanings and applications of the things we obligate ourselves to. These obligations and how we hold them are meaningful in the world as well as the lodge. I agree that there’s value to the memorization, and I agree that the meaning is important to learn. I’ve put out a challenge to all degrees that they discuss the memory work with appropriate people in appropriate places. Discuss the meanings and applications of the things we obligate ourselves to. These obligations and how we hold them are meaningful in the world as well as the lodge.

]]> By: Mike http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-4922 Mike Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:11:26 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/11/24/on-puke/#comment-4922 <i>Otherwise, it’s just puke.</i> You had me until that line. Just taking the time and effort required to memorize very long lectures has meaning, both implicit and explicit. Of course, over time, as the lectures become second nature, it's easier to invest them with meaning. But they're never "just puke." Otherwise, it’s just puke.

You had me until that line. Just taking the time and effort required to memorize very long lectures has meaning, both implicit and explicit. Of course, over time, as the lectures become second nature, it’s easier to invest them with meaning. But they’re never “just puke.”

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