Comments on: On Honor… http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/ Masonic Thinking and Working Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:59:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.1 By: aedifico42 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6980 aedifico42 Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:41:27 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6980 Mr. Ed, While I agree that there are internal facets to Honor, it is not without merit that I argue the duality of Honor...the esoteric and the exoteric aspects. I encourage you to visit Wikipedia (not always a source of wisdom, but the information on this one is good) and look-up "Honor". I think Dr. Samuel Johnson in his 1755 Dictionary spells-out my idea better than I can. I look forward to seeing you soon brother. -AEdifico Mr. Ed,
While I agree that there are internal facets to Honor, it is not without merit that I argue the duality of Honor…the esoteric and the exoteric aspects.
I encourage you to visit Wikipedia (not always a source of wisdom, but the information on this one is good) and look-up “Honor”. I think Dr. Samuel Johnson in his 1755 Dictionary spells-out my idea better than I can.
I look forward to seeing you soon brother.
-AEdifico

]]> By: Mr. Ed http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6833 Mr. Ed Tue, 25 Dec 2007 19:04:17 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6833 My Dear Worshipful Brother and Friend, I believe you are confusing 'honor' with reputation, distinctly different. Reputation is what others see; honor is what we know about ourselves. Through the actions of others, we may lose our reputation but still retain our honor, knowing that we have done nothing to besmirch our honor. We can have a reputation of being honorable yet know that we are anything but honorable, having given it up through actions to which we alone are aware. As taught to me by my Father. My Dear Worshipful Brother and Friend,

I believe you are confusing ‘honor’ with reputation, distinctly different. Reputation is what others see; honor is what we know about ourselves. Through the actions of others, we may lose our reputation but still retain our honor, knowing that we have done nothing to besmirch our honor. We can have a reputation of being honorable yet know that we are anything but honorable, having given it up through actions to which we alone are aware.

As taught to me by my Father.

]]> By: aedifico42 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6754 aedifico42 Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:39:38 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6754 Honor, as I see it, has two real facets...one is the completely selfish, internal one. The second, is the capacity to be recognized within your 'monkey sphere' as a person of honor. Both, in balance, are essential. One without the other is inadequate. I take this perception from the Emerald Tablet theory of the world...as above, so below...as within, so without... They both matter. I happily disagree, that is to say, I am happy to hold a different opinion of that held by Mr. Ed and Emeraldi...because they are both fine men and good friends who appreciate the capacity that we Masons have to disagree without being disagreeable. -AEdifico Honor, as I see it, has two real facets…one is the completely selfish, internal one. The second, is the capacity to be recognized within your ‘monkey sphere’ as a person of honor. Both, in balance, are essential.
One without the other is inadequate. I take this perception from the Emerald Tablet theory of the world…as above, so below…as within, so without…
They both matter. I happily disagree, that is to say, I am happy to hold a different opinion of that held by Mr. Ed and Emeraldi…because they are both fine men and good friends who appreciate the capacity that we Masons have to disagree without being disagreeable.
-AEdifico

]]> By: emeraldi42 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6511 emeraldi42 Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:46:52 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6511 I have to agree with Mr. Ed on this one. It must be the Japanese blood in me, but honor is stronger than slander or character assasination. Unless you relinquish it yourself your honor goes with you to the grave, even if that grave was dug by the hands of your enemy. I have to agree with Mr. Ed on this one. It must be the Japanese blood in me, but honor is stronger than slander or character assasination. Unless you relinquish it yourself your honor goes with you to the grave, even if that grave was dug by the hands of your enemy.

]]> By: Mr. Ed http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6491 Mr. Ed Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:59:09 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6491 I'm sorry, my friend. I don't believe you really understand honor. I’m sorry, my friend. I don’t believe you really understand honor.

]]> By: AEdifico http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6479 AEdifico Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:17:36 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6479 Mr. Ed. I would disagree with your Dad. Honor is easily taken from somebody with our culture of accusations and false statements. In the end, one certainly may be exhonerated, but I have seen too many people falsely accused...and the accusers believed...to allow my honor to rest only in my hands. It is certainly a sad commentary. I believe that the only thing that is truly yours forever is your Education...both formal and life-experience. These lessons we learn are the treasure we accumulate. Even in the depths of the worst prison or financial ruin, men can maintain their thoughts and memories. THIS, I believe, is the only thing we truly own. But while I disagree with your Dad, let me say that his Son is a man he should be proud of!! -Aedifico Mr. Ed.
I would disagree with your Dad. Honor is easily taken from somebody with our culture of accusations and false statements. In the end, one certainly may be exhonerated, but I have seen too many people falsely accused…and the accusers believed…to allow my honor to rest only in my hands. It is certainly a sad commentary.
I believe that the only thing that is truly yours forever is your Education…both formal and life-experience. These lessons we learn are the treasure we accumulate. Even in the depths of the worst prison or financial ruin, men can maintain their thoughts and memories. THIS, I believe, is the only thing we truly own.
But while I disagree with your Dad, let me say that his Son is a man he should be proud of!!
-Aedifico

]]> By: Mr. Ed http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6436 Mr. Ed Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:55:31 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6436 My father used to say that the only thing you have that can never be taken away from you is your honor. You can only lose it by your own actions. My father used to say that the only thing you have that can never be taken away from you is your honor. You can only lose it by your own actions.

]]> By: AEdifico http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6371 AEdifico Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:13:54 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6371 Indeed you did write a good blog on the same topic. Thanks for pointing that out. I just write stuff as it comes to me, or as the experiences occur. I am glad that at least two of us are looking at the same thing and seeing that topic from our own perspectives. Thanks for reading. Indeed you did write a good blog on the same topic. Thanks for pointing that out. I just write stuff as it comes to me, or as the experiences occur. I am glad that at least two of us are looking at the same thing and seeing that topic from our own perspectives.
Thanks for reading.

]]> By: royce myers http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6362 royce myers Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:36:30 +0000 http://masonicminute.com/blog/2007/12/16/on-honor/#comment-6362 I wrote a blog column about this: http://masonicpath.blogspot.com/2007/11/discretion.html I agree, the reason we don't tell is because we promised not to tell. I wrote a blog column about this:
http://masonicpath.blogspot.com/2007/11/discretion.html

I agree, the reason we don’t tell is because we promised not to tell.

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